October Term 2012 · Docket 11-597
Does temporary government flooding count as a taking?
The dispute centers on whether temporary flooding by the government constitutes a taking under the Fifth Amendment.
Verified source milestones
- — An official oral-argument transcript was verified.
The arguments, in order
This case may have been argued more than once. Each entry below uses that session's official transcript. Later arguments do not erase earlier ones.
Argument 1 ·
What happened at the argument
Mr. Goodhart argued temporary flooding can be a taking. He stated the Federal Circuit ruling that permanent consequences are irrelevant is incorrect. He asserted the lower-court rule cannot stand.
Mr. Kneedler argued temporary flooding is a trespass. He distinguished temporary flooding from permanent invasion cases. He cited precedent requiring permanent invasion for government responsibility.
questions_and_answers
Read the official transcript for this argument · Official argument details
Sources used for this argument breakdown
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 9-11 — Transcript, file page 10, lines 9-11
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 51-17 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 51-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-5 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-5
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 51-3 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 51-3
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 7-25 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 7-25
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 37-25 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 37-25
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 13-19 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 13-19
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 23-39 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 23-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 47-49 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 47-49
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 17-27 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 17-27
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 37-39 — Transcript, file page 9, lines 37-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 49-3 — Transcript, file page 9, lines 49-3
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 5-27 — Transcript, file page 9, lines 5-27
A citizen's guide to the whole case
What this case is about
The case asks if temporary flooding by the government counts as a taking under the Fifth Amendment. the side that brought the case argues temporary flooding can be a taking. The government argues temporary flooding is never a taking. The lower court ruled temporary flooding is not a taking. the side that brought the case seeks to reverse that ruling. The government seeks to affirm that ruling.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 51-17 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 51-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-5 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-5
How the case got here
The Supreme Court heard oral argument in this case on October 3, 2012.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 7-17
What each side wants
the side that brought the case wants the Court to rule that temporary flooding can be a taking.
The government wants the Court to rule that temporary flooding is never a taking.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 51-17 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 51-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-5 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-5
What each side says
the side that brought the case argues temporary flooding can constitute a taking under the Fifth Amendment.
The government argues temporary flooding is a trespass, not a taking.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 51-17 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 51-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-5 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-5
What the justices asked
Justice Scalia asked if temporary flooding is a taking.
Justice Breyer asked how temporary flooding differs from permanent invasion cases like Causby and Kimball Laundry. Justice Breyer noted eleven cases support the temporary trespass view. Justice Ginsburg asked about the Sanguinetti precedent requiring permanent invasion for government responsibility.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 9-11 — Transcript, file page 10, lines 9-11
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 51-3 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 51-3
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 7-25 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 7-25
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 37-25 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 37-25
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 13-19 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 13-19
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 23-39 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 23-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 47-49 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 47-49
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 17-27 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 17-27
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 37-39 — Transcript, file page 9, lines 37-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 49-3 — Transcript, file page 9, lines 49-3
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 5-27 — Transcript, file page 9, lines 5-27
Why it matters
This case determines whether landowners can claim compensation for temporary government flooding. It defines the scope of the Fifth Amendment's takings clause. It clarifies the legal distinction between temporary trespass and permanent taking. It impacts government water management and property rights.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 51-17 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 51-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-5 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-5
What happens next
This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 9-11 — Transcript, file page 10, lines 9-11
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 51-3 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 51-3
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 7-25 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 7-25
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 37-25 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 37-25
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 13-19 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 13-19
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 23-39 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 23-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 47-49 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 47-49
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 17-27 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 17-27
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 37-39 — Transcript, file page 9, lines 37-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 49-3 — Transcript, file page 9, lines 49-3
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 5-27 — Transcript, file page 9, lines 5-27
Official Court provenance
Official docket and case history · Official Supreme Court oral-argument detail page
Title and summary sources
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 51-17 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 51-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-5 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-5
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 51-17 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 51-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-5 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-5
Revision history
- Revision 1 · Official Transcript ·
Correction: Rewritten to the concise citizen-facing editorial standard.
- Revision 2 · Official Transcript ·
Correction: Migrated to the dated official Court activity contract without model use.