October Term 2012 · Docket 11-1025
Do plaintiffs have standing to challenge foreign surveillance laws?
Plaintiffs claim a substantial risk of surveillance. The government argues the threat is too speculative.
Verified source milestones
- — An official oral-argument transcript was verified.
- — An official oral-argument transcript was verified.
The arguments, in order
This case may have been argued more than once. Each entry below uses that session's official transcript. Later arguments do not erase earlier ones.
Argument 1 ·
What happened at the argument
General Verrilli argued the question is whether the opposing sides have standing to challenge the law.
Mr. Jaffer argued plaintiffs have standing due to a substantial risk of acquisition.
Justice Scalia questioned whether the issue belongs to the judiciary under separated powers.
Justice Ginsburg asked if the government could invoke state secrets if standing exists.
Read the official transcript for this argument · Official argument details
Sources used for this argument breakdown
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 27, lines 41-17 — Transcript, file page 27, lines 41-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-39 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 41-1 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 41-1
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 37-9 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 37-9
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 19-23 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 19-23
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 37-39 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 37-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 35-3 — Transcript, file page 56, lines 35-3
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 39-3 — Transcript, file page 58, lines 39-3
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 5-13 — Transcript, file page 58, lines 5-13
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 59, lines 33-37 — Transcript, file page 59, lines 33-37
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 35-45 — Transcript, file page 6, lines 35-45
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 60, lines 15-17 — Transcript, file page 60, lines 15-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 17-29 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 17-29
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 41-47 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 41-47
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 19-29 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 19-29
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 3-7 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 3-7
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 43-15 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 43-15
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 47-9 — Transcript, file page 9, lines 47-9
A citizen's guide to the whole case
What this case is about
This case tests whether plaintiffs can sue over a law that allows foreign surveillance. The core dispute is whether a future, uncertain threat creates legal standing.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 27, lines 41-17 — Transcript, file page 27, lines 41-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-39 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 35-3 — Transcript, file page 56, lines 35-3
How the case got here
The Supreme Court heard oral argument in this case on October 29, 2012.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 60, lines 15-17 — Transcript, file page 60, lines 15-17
What each side wants
The government wants the Court to dismiss the case for lack of standing.
The plaintiffs want the Court to allow their lawsuit to proceed.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 27, lines 41-17 — Transcript, file page 27, lines 41-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-39 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 35-3 — Transcript, file page 56, lines 35-3
What each side says
The government argues the threat of surveillance is too speculative to create standing.
The plaintiffs argue a substantial risk of surveillance compels immediate protective measures.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 27, lines 41-17 — Transcript, file page 27, lines 41-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-39 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 35-3 — Transcript, file page 56, lines 35-3
What the justices asked
Justice Ginsburg asked who specifically would be charged with a criminal offense.
Justice Sotomayor asked if anyone has standing under the current legal framework.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 41-1 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 41-1
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 37-9 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 37-9
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 19-23 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 19-23
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 37-39 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 37-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 39-3 — Transcript, file page 58, lines 39-3
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 5-13 — Transcript, file page 58, lines 5-13
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 59, lines 33-37 — Transcript, file page 59, lines 33-37
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 35-45 — Transcript, file page 6, lines 35-45
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 60, lines 15-17 — Transcript, file page 60, lines 15-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 17-29 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 17-29
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 41-47 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 41-47
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 19-29 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 19-29
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 3-7 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 3-7
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 43-15 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 43-15
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 47-9 — Transcript, file page 9, lines 47-9
Why it matters
This case defines the threshold for challenging government surveillance powers. It determines when citizens can seek judicial review of secret intelligence programs.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 27, lines 41-17 — Transcript, file page 27, lines 41-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-39 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 35-3 — Transcript, file page 56, lines 35-3
What happens next
This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 41-1 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 41-1
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 37-9 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 37-9
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 19-23 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 19-23
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 37-39 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 37-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 39-3 — Transcript, file page 58, lines 39-3
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 5-13 — Transcript, file page 58, lines 5-13
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 59, lines 33-37 — Transcript, file page 59, lines 33-37
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 35-45 — Transcript, file page 6, lines 35-45
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 60, lines 15-17 — Transcript, file page 60, lines 15-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 17-29 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 17-29
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 41-47 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 41-47
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 19-29 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 19-29
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 3-7 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 3-7
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 43-15 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 43-15
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 47-9 — Transcript, file page 9, lines 47-9
Official Court provenance
Official docket and case history · Official Supreme Court oral-argument detail page
Title and summary sources
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 27, lines 41-17 — Transcript, file page 27, lines 41-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-39 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 35-3 — Transcript, file page 56, lines 35-3
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 27, lines 41-17 — Transcript, file page 27, lines 41-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-39 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-39
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 35-3 — Transcript, file page 56, lines 35-3
Revision history
- Revision 1 · Official Transcript ·
Correction: Rewritten to the concise citizen-facing editorial standard.
- Revision 2 · Official Transcript ·
Correction: Migrated to the dated official Court activity contract without model use.