October Term 2009 · Docket 08-992
Does a discretionary state rule bar federal habeas review?
the sides that brought the case seek to execute Kindler. the opposing sides seek federal review of his constitutional claims.
Verified source milestones
- — An official oral-argument transcript was verified.
The arguments, in order
This case may have been argued more than once. Each entry below uses that session's official transcript. Later arguments do not erase earlier ones.
Argument 1 ·
What happened at the argument
Mr. Lawry argued the Commonwealth seeks to change the adequate state ground doctrine. He stated this would allow execution without federal review of meritorious claims.
Mr. Eisenberg argued Kindler attacked the judicial process by murdering a witness. He noted Kindler broke out of prison twice and fled the country.
Justice Sotomayor questioned whether other circuits bar deference to state rules with discretion. She asked how many cases resulted in overturned habeas grants.
Justice Kennedy noted he did not see a split among circuits. He suggested the Third Circuit was concerned the rule was not firmly established at the time of the waiver.
Read the official transcript for this argument · Official argument details
Sources used for this argument breakdown
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 21-25 — Transcript, file page 10, lines 21-25
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 45-47 — Transcript, file page 10, lines 45-47
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 10, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 11-15 — Transcript, file page 11, lines 11-15
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 29-31 — Transcript, file page 11, lines 29-31
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 49-13 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 49-13
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-45 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-45
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 47-15 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 47-15
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 25-31 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 25-31
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 41-51 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 41-51
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 39-7 — Transcript, file page 6, lines 39-7
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 5-21 — Transcript, file page 6, lines 5-21
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 23-31 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 23-31
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 43-19 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 43-19
A citizen's guide to the whole case
What this case is about
The dispute centers on whether a state procedural rule is adequate to bar federal habeas review. the sides that brought the case argue the rule is adequate. the opposing sides argue the rule is inadequate because it is discretionary.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 49-13 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 49-13
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-45 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-45
How the case got here
The Supreme Court heard oral argument in this case on November 2, 2009.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 7-17
What each side wants
the sides that brought the case want the Court to uphold the state procedural default. They want to execute Kindler without federal review of his claims.
the opposing sides want the Court to find the state rule inadequate. They want federal courts to review his constitutional claims.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 49-13 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 49-13
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-45 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-45
What each side says
the sides that brought the case argue the state rule is adequate. They contend the rule was firmly established when Kindler waived his rights.
the opposing sides argue the state rule is inadequate. They contend the rule was discretionary and not firmly established at the time.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 49-13 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 49-13
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-45 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-45
What the justices asked
Justice Sotomayor asked which other circuits bar deference to state rules with discretion.
Justice Sotomayor asked how many cases resulted in overturned habeas grants under this rule.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 21-25 — Transcript, file page 10, lines 21-25
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 45-47 — Transcript, file page 10, lines 45-47
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 10, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 11-15 — Transcript, file page 11, lines 11-15
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 29-31 — Transcript, file page 11, lines 29-31
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 47-15 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 47-15
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 25-31 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 25-31
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 41-51 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 41-51
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 39-7 — Transcript, file page 6, lines 39-7
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 5-21 — Transcript, file page 6, lines 5-21
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 23-31 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 23-31
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 43-19 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 43-19
Why it matters
This case defines the scope of federal habeas review. It determines whether discretionary state rules block federal courts from examining constitutional claims. The outcome shapes the balance between state procedural autonomy and federal oversight of death sentences.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 49-13 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 49-13
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-45 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-45
What happens next
This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity.
Official sources for this section
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 21-25 — Transcript, file page 10, lines 21-25
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 45-47 — Transcript, file page 10, lines 45-47
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 10, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 11-15 — Transcript, file page 11, lines 11-15
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 29-31 — Transcript, file page 11, lines 29-31
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 47-15 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 47-15
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 7-17
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 25-31 — Transcript, file page 4, lines 25-31
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 41-51 — Transcript, file page 5, lines 41-51
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 39-7 — Transcript, file page 6, lines 39-7
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 5-21 — Transcript, file page 6, lines 5-21
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 23-31 — Transcript, file page 7, lines 23-31
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 43-19 — Transcript, file page 8, lines 43-19
Official Court provenance
Official docket and case history · Official Supreme Court oral-argument detail page
Title and summary sources
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 49-13 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 49-13
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-45 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-45
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 49-13 — Transcript, file page 24, lines 49-13
- Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-45 — Transcript, file page 3, lines 19-45
Revision history
- Revision 1 · Official Transcript ·
Correction: Rewritten to the concise citizen-facing editorial standard.
- Revision 2 · Official Transcript ·
Correction: Migrated to the dated official Court activity contract without model use.