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Konan","case_history":[{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T20:06:14.322901Z","explanation":"An official oral-argument transcript was verified.","status":"argued"},{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T20:06:14.348706Z","explanation":"An official oral-argument transcript was verified.","status":"argued"},{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T23:58:02.955261Z","explanation":"An official Court opinion was verified.","status":"decided"},{"changed_at":"2026-08-30T01:25:52.030457Z","explanation":"An official Court opinion was verified.","status":"decided"}],"case_status":"decided","dek":"The Supreme Court must decide whether the Federal Tort Claims Act's postal exception. Which preserves US immunity for claims arising from lost, miscarried, or negligently transmitted mail, bars a woman's suit alleging postal employees intentionally withheld her mail and returned it to sender.","dek_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 11-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 11-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 68, lines 9-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 68, lines 9-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 69, lines 37-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 69, lines 37-19"}],"dispositions":[],"latest_court_document_date":"2025-10-08T00:00:00Z","maturity":"post_opinion","official_detail_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcript/2025","official_disposition_urls":["https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/607us2r13_m64n.pdf"],"official_docket_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24-351.html","primary_docket":"24-351","revisions":[{"correction_note":"Rewritten to the concise citizen-facing editorial standard.","created_at":"2026-08-29T21:44:57.109877Z","maturity":"official_transcript","revision_number":1},{"correction_note":"Removed an unsupported statement that the Court had not ruled; the available source set did not establish that absence.","created_at":"2026-08-29T23:48:24.624357Z","maturity":"official_transcript","revision_number":2},{"correction_note":"Corrected unsupported no-ruling language and clarified that the article's disposition summary is incomplete.","created_at":"2026-08-30T00:16:28.803092Z","maturity":"official_transcript","revision_number":3},{"correction_note":"Added the holding and disposition from the verified official Court opinion.","created_at":"2026-08-30T01:25:52.054374Z","maturity":"post_opinion","revision_number":4},{"correction_note":"Removed direct-quotation marks from public paraphrases.","created_at":"2026-08-30T01:49:50.258868Z","maturity":"post_opinion","revision_number":5},{"correction_note":"Migrated to the dated official Court activity contract without model use.","created_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z","maturity":"post_opinion","revision_number":6}],"schema_version":"1.1","sections":[{"heading":"What this case is about","paragraphs":["The Federal Tort Claims Act generally lets people sue the government for harm caused by federal employees. But it carves out a postal exception preserving US immunity for claims arising out of the loss, miscarriage, or negligent transmission of mail. The case turns on how far that exception reaches."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 11-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 11-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 68, lines 9-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 68, lines 9-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 69, lines 37-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 69, lines 37-19"}]},{"heading":"How the case got here","paragraphs":["A the opposing side alleges her mail never reached its destination because postal employees intentionally withheld it and returned it to sender. The government argues the postal exception bars such claims. The case reached the Supreme Court after lower-court proceedings."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 11-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 11-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 74, lines 21-23","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 74, lines 21-23"}]},{"heading":"What each side wants","paragraphs":["The Postal Service wants the Court to hold that the postal exception preserves its immunity, so the claim cannot proceed. It argues dictionary definitions and pre-FTCA cases show miscarriage broadly covered any time mail failed to arrive.","the opposing side wants her suit to proceed. Her lawyer argued no ordinary speaker would say the mail carrier lost her mail when employees intentionally withheld it. And Pointed to a differently worded statute about government employees causing loss."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 11-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 11-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 68, lines 9-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 68, lines 9-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 69, lines 37-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 69, lines 37-19"}]},{"heading":"What each side says","paragraphs":["The government's lawyer argued the exception covers intentional withholding because miscarriage had a broad ordinary meaning encompassing any failure of mail to arrive.","the opposing side's lawyer argued the government never disputed that ordinary speakers would not call intentionally withheld mail lost, and distinguished a separate statute worded differently."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 11-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 11-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 68, lines 9-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 68, lines 9-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 69, lines 37-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 69, lines 37-19"}]},{"heading":"What the justices asked","paragraphs":["Justice Sotomayor questioned whether, if miscarriage means a failure to carry mail properly, the words loss and negligent transmission become redundant and useless.","Justice Gorsuch questioned whether surplusage remains in the statute, particularly with the word miscarriage. 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39-53"}]},{"heading":"Why it matters","paragraphs":["The ruling will shape whether people harmed by intentional postal conduct can sue the government, and how courts read overlapping words in statutes."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 11-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 11-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 68, lines 9-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 68, lines 9-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official 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Both miscarriage and loss of mail can result from a Postal Service's deliberate failure to deliver it.","The Supreme Court vacated the Fifth Circuit's judgment and remanded the case for further proceedings."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Opinion","label":"Official Supreme Court Opinion — file page 2, lines 1-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/607us2r13_m64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 2, lines 1-1"},{"evidence_type":"Opinion","label":"Official Supreme Court Opinion — file page 4, lines 1-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/607us2r13_m64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 1-1"}]}],"slug":"2025-24-351-usps-v-konan","term":"2025","title":"Does the Postal Exception Cover Mail Withheld by Postal Employees?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 11-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 11-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 68, lines 9-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 68, lines 9-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 69, lines 37-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-351_khmp.pdf","page_label":"file page 69, lines 37-19"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":"latest_argument_date","updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}