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Simon","case_history":[{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T20:06:15.104794Z","explanation":"An official oral-argument transcript was verified.","status":"argued"},{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T20:06:15.110267Z","explanation":"An official oral-argument transcript was verified.","status":"argued"},{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T23:55:49.303873Z","explanation":"An official Court opinion was verified.","status":"decided"}],"case_status":"decided","dek":"Plaintiffs seek to recover Holocaust-era property from Hungary. Hungary claims sovereign immunity blocks the suit.","dek_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 35-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 35-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-17"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 13-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 58, lines 13-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 65, lines 21-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 65, lines 21-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 91, lines 23-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 91, lines 23-33"}],"dispositions":[],"latest_court_document_date":"2024-12-03T00:00:00Z","maturity":"post_opinion","official_detail_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcript/2024","official_disposition_urls":["https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/604us1r09_1b7d.pdf"],"official_docket_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/23-867.html","primary_docket":"23-867","revisions":[{"correction_note":"Rewritten to the concise citizen-facing editorial standard.","created_at":"2026-08-30T15:57:47.033126Z","maturity":"post_opinion","revision_number":1},{"correction_note":"Migrated to the dated official Court activity contract without model use.","created_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z","maturity":"post_opinion","revision_number":2}],"schema_version":"1.1","sections":[{"heading":"What this case is about","paragraphs":["This case tests the scope of the expropriation exception to sovereign immunity. The core dispute involves whether specific property requirements apply when funds are commingled."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 35-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 35-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-17"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 13-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 58, lines 13-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 65, lines 21-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 65, lines 21-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 91, lines 23-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 91, lines 23-33"}]},{"heading":"How the case got here","paragraphs":["The Supreme Court heard oral argument in this case on December 3, 2024."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 11-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 11-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 67, lines 25-51","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 67, lines 25-51"}]},{"heading":"What each side wants","paragraphs":["Hungary wants the Court to dismiss the case. It argues the law requires specific, identifiable property for the exception to apply.","Simon wants the Court to allow the suit to continue. It argues the exception covers property exchanged for the stolen assets."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 35-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 35-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-17"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 13-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 58, lines 13-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 65, lines 21-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 65, lines 21-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 91, lines 23-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 91, lines 23-33"}]},{"heading":"What each side says","paragraphs":["Hungary argues the statute text demands specific, identifiable property. It contends commingled funds do not meet this legal standard.","Simon argues the exception applies to property exchanged for the stolen assets. It contends the commercial nexus requirement is satisfied."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 35-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 35-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-17"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 13-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 58, lines 13-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 65, lines 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It determines whether plaintiffs can access mixed financial accounts in U.S. courts. The outcome shapes future claims involving state-owned entities and historical property disputes."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 35-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 35-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-17"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 13-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 58, lines 13-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 65, lines 21-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 65, lines 21-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 91, lines 23-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 91, lines 23-33"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 27-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 27-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 47-47","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 47-47"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 35-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2024/23-867_4256.pdf","page_label":"file page 11, lines 35-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 12, lines 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