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It determines whether taxpayers recover past payments or only stop future ones."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 32, lines 51-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2023/22-1238_121f.pdf","page_label":"file page 32, lines 51-11"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 25-23","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2023/22-1238_121f.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 25-23"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 65, lines 21-41","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2023/22-1238_121f.pdf","page_label":"file page 65, lines 21-41"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 70, lines 11-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2023/22-1238_121f.pdf","page_label":"file page 70, lines 11-45"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. 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