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It determines whether patent holders can challenge late administrative denials in court. The outcome shapes the balance between agency finality and judicial accountability."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 16, lines 19-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-916_3d46.pdf","page_label":"file page 16, lines 19-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 34, lines 53-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-916_3d46.pdf","page_label":"file page 34, lines 53-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-916_3d46.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 66, lines 23-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-916_3d46.pdf","page_label":"file page 66, lines 23-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 69, lines 23-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-916_3d46.pdf","page_label":"file page 69, lines 23-11"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 17-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-916_3d46.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 17-25"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 29-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-916_3d46.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 29-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 51-53","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-916_3d46.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 51-53"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 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