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He noted the possibility of information leaks.","Justice Sotomayor emphasized that both holders and buyers are harmed by delay. She stated that the securities laws do not govern fiduciary duties. 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Jander","case_history":[{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T20:06:19.707350Z","explanation":"An official oral-argument transcript was verified.","status":"argued"},{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T20:06:19.736374Z","explanation":"An official oral-argument transcript was verified.","status":"argued"}],"case_status":"argued","dek":"IBM argues that disclosing negative inside information would immediately harm the fund. Jander argues that delay harms both current holders and potential buyers.","dek_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 19-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 19-11"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 39, lines 11-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 39, lines 11-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 65, lines 13-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 65, lines 13-7"}],"dispositions":[],"latest_court_document_date":"2019-11-06T00:00:00Z","maturity":"official_transcript","official_detail_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcript/2019","official_disposition_urls":[],"official_docket_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/18-1165.html","primary_docket":"18-1165","revisions":[{"correction_note":"Rewritten to the concise citizen-facing editorial standard.","created_at":"2026-08-30T17:42:13.978621Z","maturity":"official_transcript","revision_number":1},{"correction_note":"Migrated to the dated official Court activity contract without model use.","created_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z","maturity":"official_transcript","revision_number":2}],"schema_version":"1.1","sections":[{"heading":"What this case is about","paragraphs":["This case tests the pleading standard for ERISA fiduciary duty claims. The core dispute involves whether fiduciaries must disclose negative inside information. IBM claims disclosure would reduce fund value. Jander claims delay harms participants."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 19-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 19-11"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 39, lines 11-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 39, lines 11-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 65, lines 13-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 65, lines 13-7"}]},{"heading":"How the case got here","paragraphs":["The Supreme Court heard oral argument in this case on November 6, 2019."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 11-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 11-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 69, lines 19-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 69, lines 19-21"}]},{"heading":"What each side wants","paragraphs":["IBM wants the Court to affirm the lower court's application of the Dudenhoeffer standard. IBM argues that disclosing negative information would immediately reduce fund value. IBM seeks to maintain the current pleading requirements for fiduciary claims.","Jander wants the Court to reject the argument that delay is permissible. Jander argues that both current holders and potential buyers suffer from delayed disclosure. Jander seeks a standard that prioritizes participant harm over fund value."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 19-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 19-11"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 39, lines 11-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 39, lines 11-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 65, lines 13-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 65, lines 13-7"}]},{"heading":"What each side says","paragraphs":["IBM contends that Dudenhoeffer established a specific pleading standard. This standard acknowledges that insider disclosure can harm the plan. IBM argues that fiduciaries face a conflict between disclosure and fund value.","Jander contends that ESOP fiduciaries owe the same duty of prudence as other ERISA fiduciaries. Jander argues that this duty requires action based on inside information. Jander asserts that delay harms all participants."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 19-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 19-11"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 39, lines 11-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 39, lines 11-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 65, lines 13-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 65, lines 13-7"}]},{"heading":"What the justices asked","paragraphs":["Justice Kavanaugh asked if different beneficiary classes create a duty conflict. He questioned whether prudence can be violated when some are harmed and others helped.","Justice Sotomayor asked why the fiduciary duty should not apply. She noted that both holders and buyers are harmed by delay. She distinguished fiduciary duties from securities laws."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 19-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 19-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 37-43","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 37-43"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 47-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 47-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 7-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 7-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 29-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 11, lines 29-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 12, lines 31-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 12, lines 31-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 15, lines 9-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 15, lines 9-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 16, lines 31-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 16, lines 31-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 53-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 53-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 66, lines 31-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 66, lines 31-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 66, lines 9-27","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 66, lines 9-27"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 69, lines 19-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 69, lines 19-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 23-37","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 23-37"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 53-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 53-13"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 23-51","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 23-51"}]},{"heading":"Why it matters","paragraphs":["This case defines the scope of fiduciary duties for employee stock ownership plans. It determines when insiders must disclose negative information. The outcome shapes the balance between fund stability and participant transparency. It sets the standard for future ERISA litigation involving inside information."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 19-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 19-11"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 39, lines 11-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 39, lines 11-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 23-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 23-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 65, lines 13-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 65, lines 13-7"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 19-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 19-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 37-43","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 37-43"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 47-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2019/18-1165_22q3.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 47-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 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