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Comer","case_history":[{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T20:06:21.536927Z","explanation":"An official oral-argument transcript was verified.","status":"argued"},{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T20:06:21.543569Z","explanation":"An official oral-argument transcript was verified.","status":"argued"}],"case_status":"argued","dek":"Missouri excluded a church preschool from a playground safety grant. The church argues this violates the Constitution. The state argues it must avoid funding religion.","dek_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 32-24","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 32-24"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 20-8","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 20-8"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 57, lines 20-18","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 57, lines 20-18"}],"dispositions":[],"latest_court_document_date":"2017-04-19T00:00:00Z","maturity":"official_transcript","official_detail_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcript/2016","official_disposition_urls":[],"official_docket_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/15-577.html","primary_docket":"15-577","revisions":[{"correction_note":"Rewritten to the concise citizen-facing editorial standard.","created_at":"2026-08-31T19:49:15.726708Z","maturity":"official_transcript","revision_number":1},{"correction_note":"Migrated to the dated official Court activity contract without model use.","created_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z","maturity":"official_transcript","revision_number":2}],"schema_version":"1.1","sections":[{"heading":"What this case is about","paragraphs":["A Missouri church preschool lost a playground safety grant. The state excluded it because it is a church. The church says this is unfair discrimination. The state says it must keep public money away from religious institutions."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 32-24","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 32-24"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 20-8","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 20-8"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 57, lines 20-18","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 57, lines 20-18"}]},{"heading":"How the case got here","paragraphs":["The Supreme Court heard oral argument in this case on April 19, 2017."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 8-18","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 8-18"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 20-22","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 58, lines 20-22"}]},{"heading":"What each side wants","paragraphs":["The church wants the grant. It wants the state to treat it like any other preschool. It wants the state to stop using religious status as a reason to deny benefits.","The state wants to keep the denial. It wants to maintain a rule that bars public funds from religious institutions. It wants to avoid using tax money for religious purposes."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 32-24","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 32-24"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 20-8","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 20-8"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 57, lines 20-18","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 57, lines 20-18"}]},{"heading":"What each side says","paragraphs":["The church argues the state used religious status to deny a benefit. It argues this violates the free exercise clause. It argues the grant is neutral and secular. It argues the state must treat all preschools equally.","The state argues it must avoid funding religion. It argues a long tradition keeps public money away from churches. It argues using tax money for a church violates the establishment clause. It argues the state must respect this separation."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 32-24","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 32-24"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 20-8","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 20-8"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 57, lines 20-18","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 57, lines 20-18"}]},{"heading":"What the justices asked","paragraphs":["Justice Kagan asked if a state could deny money if a church uses a playground for prayer. She asked if that scenario is significantly different.","Justice Sotomayor asked how a state controls religious instruction outside. She asked how the state avoids controlling belief and viewpoint in that process."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 16-16","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 16-16"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 18-42","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 18-42"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 52-12","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 52-12"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 10-26","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 10-26"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 38-50","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 38-50"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 16-32","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 16-32"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 46-48","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 46-48"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 52-12","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 52-12"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 20-22","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 58, lines 20-22"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 40-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 40-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 38-4","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 38-4"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 12-30","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 12-30"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 36-38","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 36-38"}]},{"heading":"Why it matters","paragraphs":["This case defines the boundary between public funding and religious institutions. It determines whether states can exclude churches from general benefit programs. It affects how governments allocate resources to religious and secular groups. It shapes the relationship between public money and religious freedom."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 32-24","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 32-24"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 20-8","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 20-8"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 57, lines 20-18","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 57, lines 20-18"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 16-16","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 16-16"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 18-42","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 18-42"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 52-12","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 52-12"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 8-18","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 8-18"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 10-26","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 10-26"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 38-50","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 38-50"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 16-32","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 16-32"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 46-48","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 46-48"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 52-12","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 52-12"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 20-22","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 58, lines 20-22"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 40-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 40-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 38-4","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 38-4"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 12-30","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 12-30"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 36-38","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 36-38"}]}],"slug":"2016-15-577-trinity-lutheran-church-of-columbia-inc-v-comer","term":"2016","title":"Can a state deny a church a playground grant solely because of its religious status?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 32-24","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 32-24"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 20-8","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 20-8"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 57, lines 20-18","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2016/15-577_l64n.pdf","page_label":"file page 57, lines 20-18"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}