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The government claims this violates the Hobbs Act. 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2015."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 8-18","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 8-18"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 57, lines 48-50","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 57, lines 48-50"}]},{"heading":"What each side wants","paragraphs":["Ocasio wants the conviction overturned because the law requires taking property from a third party.","The United States wants the conviction upheld because the conspiracy satisfied all statutory elements."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 27, lines 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It clarifies who qualifies as a victim under the statute. The outcome shapes how prosecutors charge conspiracy cases involving property owners."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 27, lines 44-22","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 27, lines 44-22"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 20-50","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 20-50"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 57, lines 36-46","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 57, lines 36-46"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 52-12","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 52-12"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 8-18","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 8-18"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 28-34","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 28-34"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 38-42","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 38-42"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 16-24","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 16-24"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 30-30","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 30-30"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 38-42","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 38-42"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 57, lines 48-50","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 57, lines 48-50"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 18-32","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 18-32"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 4-10","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 4-10"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 46-50","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 46-50"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 24-32","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 24-32"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 44-50","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 44-50"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 16-38","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 16-38"}]}],"slug":"2015-14-361-ocasio-v-united-states","term":"2015","title":"Does a Hobbs Act conspiracy require obtaining property from a third party?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 27, lines 44-22","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 27, lines 44-22"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 20-50","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 20-50"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 57, lines 36-46","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2015/14-361_7mip.pdf","page_label":"file page 57, lines 36-46"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}