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Teva argues trial judges find facts. Sandoz argues claim construction is a legal question. The Court must decide which standard applies."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 23, lines 31-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 23, lines 31-13"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 19-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 33, lines 31-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 33, lines 31-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 53, lines 47-23","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 53, lines 47-23"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 55, lines 33-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 55, lines 33-13"}]},{"heading":"How the case got here","paragraphs":["The Supreme Court heard oral argument in this case on October 15, 2014."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 7-17"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 17-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 58, lines 17-19"}]},{"heading":"What each side wants","paragraphs":["Teva wants the Supreme Court to require appellate courts to defer to trial judges on factual findings in claim construction.","Sandoz wants the Supreme Court to allow appellate courts to review claim construction de novo without deference."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 23, lines 31-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 23, lines 31-13"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 19-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 33, lines 31-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 33, lines 31-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 53, lines 47-23","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 53, lines 47-23"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 55, lines 33-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 55, lines 33-13"}]},{"heading":"What each side says","paragraphs":["Teva argues that claim construction often relies on subsidiary facts. Trial judges are best positioned to weigh evidence. Appellate courts should apply a deferential standard under Rule 52.","Sandoz argues that claim construction is a question of law. Appellate courts must review these determinations de novo. This ensures uniform interpretation of patent rights."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 23, lines 31-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 23, lines 31-13"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 19-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 33, lines 31-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 33, lines 31-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 53, lines 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It affects the cost and duration of patent litigation. It influences the stability of patent rights for pharmaceutical companies."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 23, lines 31-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 23, lines 31-13"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 19-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 33, lines 31-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 33, lines 31-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 53, lines 47-23","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 53, lines 47-23"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 55, lines 33-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 55, lines 33-13"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 21-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 21-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 7-17"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 3-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2014/13-854_h3dj.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 3-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 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