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The group seeks a ruling before any charges file. The state demands the group wait for an actual trial."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 21, lines 12-32","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 21, lines 12-32"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 52-36","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 52-36"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 20-48","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 20-48"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 52, lines 30-34","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 52, lines 30-34"}]},{"heading":"How the case got here","paragraphs":["The Supreme Court heard oral argument in this case on April 22, 2014."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 8-18","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 8-18"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 55, lines 36-40","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 55, lines 36-40"}]},{"heading":"What each side wants","paragraphs":["Susan B. 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It shapes the balance between free speech and state enforcement. The outcome sets a standard for pre-enforcement legal challenges."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 21, lines 12-32","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 21, lines 12-32"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 52-36","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 52-36"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 20-48","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 20-48"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 52, lines 30-34","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 52, lines 30-34"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 6-16","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 6-16"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 50-12","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 50-12"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 8-18","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 8-18"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 26-36","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 26-36"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 10-18","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 10-18"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 55, lines 36-40","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 55, lines 36-40"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 6-20","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 6-20"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 12-26","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 12-26"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 44-50","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 44-50"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 6-8","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 6-8"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 28-38","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 28-38"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 52-8","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 52-8"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 18-28","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 18-28"}]}],"slug":"2013-13-193-susan-b-anthony-list-v-driehaus","term":"2013","title":"Can a group sue to stop a state from threatening to prosecute its speech?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 21, lines 12-32","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 21, lines 12-32"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 52-36","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 52-36"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 20-48","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 20-48"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 52, lines 30-34","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/13-193_mjo0.pdf","page_label":"file page 52, lines 30-34"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}