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The government argues that the bank loses the difference between the loan and the property value."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 41-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-9012_kjg1.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 41-11"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 33-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-9012_kjg1.pdf","page_label":"file page 24, lines 33-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-49","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-9012_kjg1.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-49"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 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It affects the financial recovery of banks and the liability of borrowers. The outcome sets a standard for valuing returned property in fraud cases."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 41-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-9012_kjg1.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 41-11"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 33-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-9012_kjg1.pdf","page_label":"file page 24, lines 33-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-49","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-9012_kjg1.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-49"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 58, lines 39-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-9012_kjg1.pdf","page_label":"file page 58, lines 39-25"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 35-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-9012_kjg1.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 35-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 17-23","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-9012_kjg1.pdf","page_label":"file page 11, lines 17-23"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 27-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-9012_kjg1.pdf","page_label":"file page 11, lines 27-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 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