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It determines whether courts can seize protected assets to pay legal fees. The outcome shapes the balance between debtor protections and court authority."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 26, lines 7-49","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 26, lines 7-49"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 19-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 11-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 11-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 9-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 9-9"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 5-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 11, lines 5-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 35-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 35-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 7-17"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 25-35","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 25-35"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 41-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 41-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 51-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 51-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 47-3","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 47-3"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 54, lines 51-4","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 54, lines 51-4"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 51-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 51-17"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 9-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 9-25"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 13-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 13-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 7-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 7-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 13-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 13-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 5-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 5-9"}]}],"slug":"2013-12-5196-law-v-siegel","term":"2013","title":"Can a bankruptcy court use inherent power to seize a debtor's exempt property to pay legal fees?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 26, lines 7-49","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 26, lines 7-49"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 19-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 11-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 11-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 9-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2013/12-5196_299n.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 9-9"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}