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The law bans using threats to obtain property from others. The core question is whether future business commissions count as property. the side that brought the case argues the law only covers tangible items. The government argues it covers intangible economic benefits."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 26, lines 25-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/12-357_ed9f.pdf","page_label":"file page 26, lines 25-25"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 26, lines 27-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/12-357_ed9f.pdf","page_label":"file page 26, lines 27-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-49","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/12-357_ed9f.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 19-49"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 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It determines whether threats to secure future business deals are crimes. The outcome shapes how prosecutors handle business disputes involving threats. It clarifies what counts as property under federal statutes."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 26, lines 25-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/12-357_ed9f.pdf","page_label":"file page 26, lines 25-25"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 26, lines 27-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/12-357_ed9f.pdf","page_label":"file page 26, lines 27-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-49","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/12-357_ed9f.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 19-49"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 13-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/12-357_ed9f.pdf","page_label":"file page 56, lines 13-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 57, lines 29-49","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/12-357_ed9f.pdf","page_label":"file page 57, lines 29-49"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 43-3","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/12-357_ed9f.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 43-3"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 9-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/12-357_ed9f.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 9-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 17-41","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/12-357_ed9f.pdf","page_label":"file page 11, lines 17-41"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 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