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It determines how state court rulings interact with federal constitutional claims. It affects the finality of state criminal judgments."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 13-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 24, lines 13-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-45"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 23-41","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 23-41"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 15-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 11, lines 15-25"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 47-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 47-13"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 7-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 31-47","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 31-47"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 23-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 23-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 45-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 45-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 17-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 17-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 49-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 49-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 7-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 7-13"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 51-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 51-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 11-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 11-13"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 19-43","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 19-43"}]}],"slug":"2012-11-465-johnson-v-williams","term":"2012","title":"Does a state court decision on state law count as a merits ruling on a federal claim?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 13-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 24, lines 13-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2012/11-465.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-45"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}