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It sets the standard for excusing missed deadlines. It clarifies the role of local counsel in state courts."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 41-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 41-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 59, lines 23-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 59, lines 23-45"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 47-3","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 47-3"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 7-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 19-23","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 19-23"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 47-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 47-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 19-23","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 19-23"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 37-43","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 37-43"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 59, lines 47-3","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 59, lines 47-3"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 33-43","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 33-43"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 47-1","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 47-1"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 7-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 7-11"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 60, lines 15-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 60, lines 15-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 62, lines 5-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 62, lines 5-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 17-27","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 17-27"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 45-47","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 45-47"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 13-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 13-17"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 23-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 23-25"}]}],"slug":"2011-10-63-maples-v-thomas","term":"2011","title":"Does a lawyer's abandonment excuse a missed filing deadline?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 41-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 41-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 59, lines 23-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2011/10-63.pdf","page_label":"file page 59, lines 23-45"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}