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The parties disagree on the legal effect of a ne exeat order. One side argues the order grants custody rights. The other side argues it only grants access rights. The Court must interpret the Convention's definitions."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 19, lines 15-23","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 19, lines 15-23"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 37-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 37-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-13"}]},{"heading":"How the case got here","paragraphs":["The Supreme Court heard oral argument in this case on January 12, 2010."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 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lines 47-3"}]},{"heading":"Why it matters","paragraphs":["This case defines the scope of custody rights under the Hague Convention. It determines how courts handle international child removals. The outcome shapes future custody disputes involving foreign orders. It impacts the balance between parental rights and child welfare."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 19, lines 15-23","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 19, lines 15-23"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 37-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 37-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-13"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 7-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 15-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 15-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 17-31","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 17-31"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 11-47","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 11-47"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 3-5","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 3-5"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 11-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 11-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 47-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 47-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 5-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 5-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 11-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 11-13"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 19-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 19-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 45-49","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 45-49"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 23-31","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 23-31"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 47-3","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 47-3"}]}],"slug":"2009-08-645-timothy-mark-cameron-abbott-v-jacquelyn-vaye-abbott","term":"2009","title":"Does a ne exeat order grant custody rights under the Hague Convention?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 19, lines 15-23","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 19, lines 15-23"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 37-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 37-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2009/08-645.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-13"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}