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It affects business disputes and consumer contracts. It clarifies federal versus state power."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 26, lines 33-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/08-146.pdf","page_label":"file page 26, lines 33-11"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/08-146.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-21"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. 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