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It determines how easily parties can force disputes out of federal tribunals. The outcome shapes the balance of power in commercial litigation."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 26, lines 13-5","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 26, lines 13-5"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 60, lines 3-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 60, lines 3-15"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 7-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 35-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 35-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 33-49","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 33-49"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 9-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 9-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 25-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 25-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 61, lines 17-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 61, lines 17-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 61, lines 27-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 61, lines 27-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 61, lines 35-37","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 61, lines 35-37"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 21-31","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 21-31"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 3-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 3-11"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 41-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 41-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 21-35","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 21-35"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 5-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 5-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 51-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 51-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 37-43","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 37-43"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 51-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 51-7"}]}],"slug":"2008-07-773-vaden-v-discover-bank","term":"2008","title":"Does the Federal Arbitration Act override federal court jurisdiction rules?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 26, lines 13-5","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 26, lines 13-5"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 60, lines 3-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-773.pdf","page_label":"file page 60, lines 3-15"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}