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It defines the boundary between protected speech and mandatory union fees."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 27, lines 13-37","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 27, lines 13-37"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-51","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-51"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 7-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 21-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 21-25"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 3-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 3-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 33-41","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 33-41"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 3-5","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 3-5"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 15-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 15-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 47-3","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 47-3"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 5-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 5-11"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 23-27","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 23-27"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 33-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 33-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 19-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 19-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 29-35","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 29-35"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 5-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 5-13"}]}],"slug":"2008-07-610-locke-v-karass","term":"2008","title":"Can public unions charge nonmembers for outside legal defense?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 27, lines 13-37","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 27, lines 13-37"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-51","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-610.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-51"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}