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HIF Bio, Inc.","case_history":[{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T20:06:26.510426Z","explanation":"An official oral-argument transcript was verified.","status":"argued"}],"case_status":"argued","dek":"Carlsbad Technology and HIF Bio dispute whether federal courts must dismiss appeals of remand orders involving supplemental jurisdiction.","dek_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 20, lines 13-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 20, lines 13-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 19-17"}],"dispositions":[],"latest_court_document_date":"2009-02-24T00:00:00Z","maturity":"official_transcript","official_detail_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcript/2008","official_disposition_urls":[],"official_docket_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/07-1437.html","primary_docket":"07-1437","revisions":[{"correction_note":"Rewritten to the concise citizen-facing editorial standard.","created_at":"2026-08-31T02:35:19.697867Z","maturity":"official_transcript","revision_number":1},{"correction_note":"Migrated to the dated official Court activity contract without model use.","created_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z","maturity":"official_transcript","revision_number":2}],"schema_version":"1.1","sections":[{"heading":"What this case is about","paragraphs":["The case tests the scope of 28 U.S.C. § 1447(d). This statute generally bars appeals of remand orders. The parties argue over whether this bar applies when a district court declines supplemental jurisdiction over state claims."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 20, lines 13-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 20, lines 13-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 19-17"}]},{"heading":"How the case got here","paragraphs":["The Supreme Court heard oral argument in this case on February 24, 2009."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 7-17"}]},{"heading":"What each side wants","paragraphs":["Carlsbad 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It affects the finality of state court proceedings. It shapes the balance between federal and state judicial authority."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 20, lines 13-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 20, lines 13-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 19-17"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 47-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 47-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 45-3","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 11, lines 45-3"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 12, lines 31-35","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 12, lines 31-35"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 12, lines 9-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 12, lines 9-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 13, lines 27-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 13, lines 27-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 14, lines 29-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 14, lines 29-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 14, lines 45-3","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 14, lines 45-3"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 7-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 7-17"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 19-31","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 19-31"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 43-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 43-17"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 41-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 41-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 29-49","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 29-49"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 35-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 35-9"}]}],"slug":"2008-07-1437-carlsbad-technology-inc-v-hif-bio-inc","term":"2008","title":"Can parties appeal a district court's refusal to hear state claims?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 20, lines 13-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 20, lines 13-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 19-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2008/07-1437.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 19-17"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}