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Franklin Capital Corp.","case_history":[{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T20:06:29.164208Z","explanation":"An official oral-argument transcript was verified.","status":"argued"}],"case_status":"argued","dek":"the sides that brought the case seek fees for defending a removal motion. the opposing sides argue no statute grants this right.","dek_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 25, lines 13-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 25, lines 13-25"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-11"}],"dispositions":[],"latest_court_document_date":"2005-11-08T00:00:00Z","maturity":"official_transcript","official_detail_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcript/2005","official_disposition_urls":[],"official_docket_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/04-1140.html","primary_docket":"04-1140","revisions":[{"correction_note":"Rewritten to the concise citizen-facing editorial standard.","created_at":"2026-08-31T14:10:36.289912Z","maturity":"official_transcript","revision_number":1},{"correction_note":"Migrated to the dated official Court activity contract without model use.","created_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z","maturity":"official_transcript","revision_number":2}],"schema_version":"1.1","sections":[{"heading":"What this case is about","paragraphs":["This case tests whether federal law allows a defendant to recover attorney fees. The defendant successfully defended a motion to remand the case to state court. the sides that brought the case argue the removal statute implies this fee right. the opposing sides argue no statute grants fees for this specific defense."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 25, lines 13-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 25, lines 13-25"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-11"}]},{"heading":"How the case got here","paragraphs":["The Supreme Court heard oral argument in this case on November 8, 2005."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 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sides argue no statute provides fees for defendants who successfully defend removal."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 25, lines 13-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 25, lines 13-25"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-11"}]},{"heading":"What the justices asked","paragraphs":["Justice Ginsburg asked if the fee issue was significant when the statute lacked fee provisions.","Chief Justice Roberts questioned if Congress understood Rule 11 overlap when passing the law."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 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It affects the financial risk of removing cases to federal court. It clarifies the scope of fee-shifting statutes in federal procedure."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 25, lines 13-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 25, lines 13-25"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-11"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 13-31","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 11, lines 13-31"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 5-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 11, lines 5-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 12, lines 27-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 12, lines 27-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 5-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 5-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 13-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 13-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 21-27","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 21-27"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 43-47","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 43-47"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 39-5","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 39-5"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 5-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 5-13"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 33-54","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 33-54"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 19-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 19-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 47-7","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 47-7"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 29-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 29-33"}]}],"slug":"2005-04-1140-martin-v-franklin-capital-corp","term":"2005","title":"Can a defendant recover attorney fees after successfully defending a removal?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 25, lines 13-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 25, lines 13-25"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2005/04-1140.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-11"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}