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case on April 25, 2005."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 5-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 5-13"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 9-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 56, lines 9-13"}]},{"heading":"What each side wants","paragraphs":["the sides that brought the case want federal courts to use Rule 60(b) to correct habeas errors.","the opposing sides want courts to deny Rule 60(b) relief in habeas cases."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 47-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 24, lines 47-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court 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It shapes how courts handle procedural mistakes in prisoner litigation. The outcome clarifies the boundary between habeas and civil procedure rules."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 47-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 24, lines 47-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 15-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 15-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 43, lines 9-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 43, lines 9-17"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 10, lines 13-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 10, lines 13-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 13-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 11, lines 13-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 11, lines 45-47","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 11, lines 45-47"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 5-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 5-13"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 4, lines 39-41","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 4, lines 39-41"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 5, lines 31-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 5, lines 31-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 9-13","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 56, lines 9-13"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 6, lines 45-27","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 6, lines 45-27"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 7, lines 31-31","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 7, lines 31-31"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 8, lines 31-33","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 8, lines 31-33"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 1-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 1-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 19-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 19-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 25-35","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 25-35"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 9, lines 37-43","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 9, lines 37-43"}]}],"slug":"2004-04-6432-gonzalez-v-crosby","term":"2004","title":"Can federal courts use Rule 60(b) to fix habeas errors?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 24, lines 47-21","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 24, lines 47-21"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 15-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 15-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 43, lines 9-17","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2004/04-6432.pdf","page_label":"file page 43, lines 9-17"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}