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Jubelirer","case_history":[{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T20:06:30.827840Z","explanation":"An official oral-argument transcript was verified.","status":"argued"},{"changed_at":"2026-08-29T20:06:30.855270Z","explanation":"An official oral-argument transcript was verified.","status":"argued"}],"case_status":"argued","dek":"the sides that brought the case seek a workable standard to prove partisan gerrymandering. the opposing sides argue such claims are inherently political and non-justiciable.","dek_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 25-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 25-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 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sides argue courts lack the tools to decide these political questions."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 25-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 25-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 45-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 45-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 47-37","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 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requires political choices that courts cannot make."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 25-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 25-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 45-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 45-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 47-37","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 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the role of courts in redistricting disputes. It determines whether voters can challenge extreme partisan maps in federal court. It shapes the balance between legislative power and judicial review."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 25-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 25-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 45-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 45-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 47-37","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 47-37"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 51, lines 33-57","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 51, lines 33-57"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 55, lines 31-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 55, lines 31-9"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 5-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 5-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 57, lines 43-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 57, lines 43-45"}]}],"slug":"2003-02-1580-vieth-v-jubelirer","term":"2003","title":"Can courts judge partisan gerrymandering claims?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 29, lines 25-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 29, lines 25-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-39","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-39"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 45-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 45-45"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 42, lines 47-37","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 42, lines 47-37"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 51, lines 33-57","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 51, lines 33-57"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 55, lines 31-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2003/02-1580.pdf","page_label":"file page 55, lines 31-9"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}