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Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 4-11","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/01-408.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 4-11"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 47, lines 23-25","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/01-408.pdf","page_label":"file page 47, lines 23-25"}]}],"slug":"2001-01-408-holmes-group-inc-v-vornado-air-circulation-systems-inc","term":"2001","title":"Does a patent counterclaim force federal appellate review?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 25, lines 31-19","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/01-408.pdf","page_label":"file page 25, lines 31-19"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 13-14","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/01-408.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 13-14"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}