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It asks if a lawyer conflict requires proof of harm."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 49-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 49-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 47, lines 29-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 47, lines 29-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 50, lines 7-43","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 50, lines 7-43"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 55, lines 37-41","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 55, lines 37-41"}]},{"heading":"How the case got here","paragraphs":["The Supreme Court heard oral argument in this case on November 5, 2001."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 5-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 5-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 43-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 56, lines 43-45"}]},{"heading":"What each side wants","paragraphs":["the sides that brought the case want the Court to require proof of harm.","the opposing sides want the Court to presume harm from the conflict."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 49-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 49-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 47, lines 29-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 47, lines 29-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 50, lines 7-43","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 50, lines 7-43"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 55, lines 37-41","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 55, lines 37-41"}]},{"heading":"What each side says","paragraphs":["the sides that brought the case argue the Sixth Amendment requires showing actual conflict and adverse effect.","the opposing sides argue Holloway presumes prejudice when a court compels conflicted representation."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 49-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 49-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 47, lines 29-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 47, lines 29-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 50, lines 7-43","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 50, lines 7-43"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 55, lines 37-41","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 55, lines 37-41"}]},{"heading":"What the justices asked","paragraphs":["Chief Justice Rehnquist asked if the case is submitted."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 43-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 56, lines 43-45"}]},{"heading":"Why it matters","paragraphs":["This standard defines when a lawyer conflict violates constitutional rights. It determines the burden of proof for criminal defendants."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 49-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 49-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 47, lines 29-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 47, lines 29-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 50, lines 7-43","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 50, lines 7-43"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 55, lines 37-41","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 55, lines 37-41"}]},{"heading":"What happens next","paragraphs":["This article currently covers the argument record. Use the official docket link for later case activity."],"sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 5-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 5-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 56, lines 43-45","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 56, lines 43-45"}]}],"slug":"2001-00-9285-mickens-v-taylor","term":"2001","title":"Does a lawyer conflict require proof of harm?","title_sources":[{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 28, lines 49-29","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 28, lines 49-29"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 3, lines 17-15","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 3, lines 17-15"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 47, lines 29-9","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 47, lines 29-9"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 50, lines 7-43","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 50, lines 7-43"},{"evidence_type":"Transcript","label":"Official Supreme Court Transcript — file page 55, lines 37-41","official_url":"https://www.supremecourt.gov/pdfs/transcripts/2001/00-9285.pdf","page_label":"file page 55, lines 37-41"}],"topics":[],"undated_disposition_date_fallback":null,"updated_at":"2026-09-05T03:22:24Z"}